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Meta & Fysikken: Afsnit 122: AMOC og Antartika

Idag gen-besøger vi et emne vi i sin tid havde Jesper Theilgaard inde og tale om. Verdenshavene og strømmene. Der sker lidt!

Her er Karina’s noter.

AMOC:

The Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation (AMOC) is a major system of ocean currents, including the Gulf Stream, that transports warm water to the North Atlantic and colder water south. It acts as a vital heat conveyor, ensuring mild temperatures in Europe. Due to climate change—specifically freshwater influx from melting glaciers—the AMOC is weakening, threatening a potential collapse that could drastically alter global weather patterns.

  1. Function: It acts like a conveyor belt, transporting warm, salty water from the tropics to the North Atlantic and cold, deep water back south.

  2. Significance: It keeps Europe warmer than other regions at similar latitudes and influences global climate patterns, including the monsoon in Asia.

  3. Weakening Trend: Studies suggest the AMOC is at its weakest in over 1,000 years.

  4. Risks: A collapse could cause severe consequences, including much colder European winters, accelerated sea-level rise, and shifts in tropical rainfall.

  5. Potential Collapse: Research indicates the system is approaching a critical tipping point, with some studies suggesting a potential collapse this century.

AMOC collapse could turn Southern Ocean into carbon source, adding 0.2°C to global warming — Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research

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Klimaforsker: 5 ting, jeg ville ønske, alle vidste om AMOC-havstrømme:

  1. Den globale opvarmning gør havvandet lettere, og øget tilførsel af ferskvand fra blandt andet Grønland reducerer saltholdigheden. 

  2. Det betyder, at mindre af det tungere kolde vand i Nordatlanten synker mod bunden og dermed giver plads til lunere vand i overfladen. 

  3. Det bremser cirkulationen af det varme og kolde vand og svækker det samlede system.

For 12800 år siden - den yngre Dryas periode -  dengang Istidens store iskapper var på retræte, mener man at der var en svækkelse af AMOC pga store intense tilførsler af ferskvand fra smeltende iskapper i Nordamerika til Nordatlanten. 

Under Yngre Dryas opstod en næsten istidslignende periode i Nord- og Vesteuropa, hvor temperaturerne faldt voldsomt inden for få årtier og forblev lave i 1.000 år.
Gletsjere rykkede frem igen, og vegetationen ændrede sig hurtigt i retning af mere kuldetolerante arter. 

Dette kan muligvis været triggeret af et vulkanudbrud: Undervurderet joker kan før have udløst voldsomme klimaforandringer

Vulkanudbrud puffede dengang til et klimasystem, der i forvejen var ude af balance. Ubalancen skyldtes blandt andet, at enorme mængder fersk smeltevand fossede ud i det nordatlantiske hav fra de flere kilometer tykke iskapper, der dækkede store dele af den nordlige halvkugle. 
Ferskvandet forstyrrede havets saltbalance og dermed de vigtige nordatlantiske strømme, der fordeler varme fra Jordens sydlige halvkugle til den nordlige.
»I istiden var klimaet tæt på et 'tipping point'. Når noget er lige ved at vælte, skal der ikke meget til at skubbe det ud over kanten,« siger en anden af forskerne bag studiet, Peter Ditlevsen, der er professor i klimamodellering på Niels Bohr Institutet i København. 

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/weather/2026/04/23/studies-warn-amoc-ocean-current-in-trouble/89720003007/

Udsigterne:

AMOC kollaps allerede 2065. Man ved ikke om det er en langsom svækkelse eller et pludseligt skift. 

Det er IKKE en kommende istid. Det er ændringer i havcirkulationen, som kan gøre vores klima køligere og mere ustabilt.

CO2 niveauer som for 2-3 millioner år siden.

Regional temperature changes would be even more pronounced than global mean temperature change. In one scenario at CO₂ concentrations of 450ppm – last experienced by the Earth several million years ago, when polar ice was significantly reduced – Antarctic temperatures rise by 6°C while Arctic temperatures drop by 7°C due to AMOC collapse.(fra PIK)

Et kollaps af AMOC can frigive CO2 i de sydlige have, hvilket vil tilføre yderligere 0.2°C til global opvarming.

Antartika

https://www.asoc.org/learn/antarctic-ice-and-rising-sea-levels/

Forskere har kortlagt, hvor Antarktis' afsmeltning vil få de største konsekvenser

Højere saltindhold:

Rising surface salinity and declining sea ice: A new Southern Ocean state revealed by satellites

Rising surface salinity and declining sea ice: A new Southern Ocean state revealed by satellites | PNAS

Antarctica has lost a Greenland’s worth of sea ice (på 10 år) – and the effects are troubling.
A dramatic transformation is unfolding in the waters around Antarctica. Since 2015, the continent has lost as much sea ice as the entire size of Greenland, but that’s not even the scariest part. 
Scientists have discovered that the Southern Ocean, which once freshened and helped preserve the ice, is now becoming saltier. This saltier surface allows deep ocean heat to rise, melting the ice from below. It’s a reversal of decades-long trends – and it’s doing damage fast.
One striking consequence: the return of the Maud Rise polynya, a massive hole in the sea ice nearly four times the size of Wales, unseen since the 1970s. It’s a symptom of a dangerous feedback loop – less ice leads to more ocean heat, which leads to even less ice – potentially destabilizing one of Earth’s key climate regulators.
And the impacts extend far beyond the poles. Sea ice acts as a mirror, reflecting sunlight. Without it, oceans absorb more heat, amplifying global warming, fueling more extreme storms, and collapsing ecosystems that depend on stable ice – from penguins to krill and beyond.
Now, with real-time satellite and robotic monitoring in place, scientists warn we may be witnessing a fundamental shift in the planet’s climate engine – one that’s unfolding faster than expected, and with global consequences.

Pingvin lort

https://videnskab.dk/naturvidenskab/pingvinlort-danner-skyer-over-antarktis-en-overset-beskyttelse-mod-klimaforandringer/

Pingvinlort danner skyer over Antarktis: En overset beskyttelse mod klimaforandringer?

Pungent Penguin Poop Produces Polar Cloud Particles - Eos

Regn på Antarktis

Regn på vej til Antarktis, og det vil forandre det isdækkede kontinent

Mærkeligt liv fundet under Antarktis:

https://phys.org/news/2021-02-strange-creatures-accidentally-beneath-antarctica.html?fbclid=IwdGRleARpCzNleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZAo2NjI4NTY4Mzc5AAEerViaBDjmgQUZF7HNb4D2m_ruYldpie98pLSCQAf90hRNu3ug2ghvarQQRVA_aem_SLTlRGyB4a3nX7MN_6hFaQ

Gamle ting vi har snakket om tidligere:

1) Fra episode nov/dec 2022:

Under iskappen på Antarkis løber der en 460 kilometer lang flod.

The researchers behind the discovery used a combination of airborne radar surveys that can peer through the ice, plus water flow modeling. The large area under examination includes ice from both the east and west ice sheets in the Antarctic, with water running off into the Weddell Sea.

"The region where this study is based holds enough ice to raise the sea level globally by 4.3 meters," says glaciologist Martin Siegert from Imperial College London in the UK.

"How much of this ice melts, and how quickly, is linked to how slippery the base of the ice is. The newly discovered river system could strongly influence this process."

"When we first discovered lakes beneath the Antarctic ice a couple of decades ago, we thought they were isolated from each other," says Siegert.

"Now we are starting to understand there are whole systems down there, interconnected by vast river networks, just as they might be if there weren't thousands of meters of ice on top of them."

https://www.sciencealert.com/scientists-just-discovered-a-huge-river-hidden-under-antarctica

2) I 2018, nævnte vi at man havde fundet en varmekilde under isen i Antarktis:

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Meta & Fysikken: Afsnit 114: Klima-status.

Vi tager lige en status på klimaet, her Oktober 2025.

1: Ocean Warming

2: Koralrev

3:Tipping Points

4: Permafrost i Rusland

5: Hvad gør vi med den CO2 vi indfanger?

6: Fuel Cells / Green Hydrogen plant

7: Kelp Farming in Norway

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1 : Ocean warming : 

https://www.sciencealert.com/ocean-warming-threatens-microbe-that-makes-nearly-a-third-of-earths-oxygen

Jeff Berardelli (meterolog USA):

It's hard to overstate just how off the charts warm the Pacific is right now. The swath of the basin from California to Japan (a HUGE area) from 25N to 60N is ~3F (1.6C) above normal. To put it into math terms that is 6 Sigma/ standard deviations above the mean. I won't bother calculating the chances of this happening against the late 20th century climate - let alone the pre-industrial climate - because the numbers would show it simply could never happen without global warming.
So let's talk about why this is happening. Since the last El Nino a couple of years ago the ocean has been rearranging its warm/cool water, as it typically does as a normal part of it's natural oscillation. (This summer a record ridge/ heat dome was parked over the N Pacific).
But each next time this configuration lines up (warm north Pacific/ cool tropical Pacific) it piles on a higher and higher baseline temperature over time due to greenhouse warming, air pollution reduction, and the feedbacks (clouds & direct insolation) of both. So we end up with the bottom chart which shows the standardized anomaly (departure from normal) is sloping upward at a very unnatural and alarming rate.

2: Koralrev

https://www.dr.dk/nyheder/viden/klima/ny-rapport-det-er-saa-godt-som-uundgaaeligt-verdens-koralrev-kollapser

https://videnskab.dk/naturvidenskab/oejenaabner-genopretning-af-koraller-kan-ikke-redde-verdens-rev/

3: Tipping Points

https://videnskab.dk/naturvidenskab/tipping-points-lyder-skraemmende-men-der-er-haab-endnu/

4: Permafrost i Rusland:
https://videnskab.dk/naturvidenskab/klimabombe-i-rusland-danske-forskere-advarer-om-alvorlig-mangel-paa-viden

Også:

Eksploderende Methan gas i Siberien:

https://www.sciencealert.com/mysterious-giant-exploding-craters-in-siberia-may-finally-be-explained

5:Hvad gør vi med den CO2 vi indfanger

https://videnskab.dk/teknologi/hvad-goer-vi-med-den-co2-vi-fanger/

Vi sender noget af den tilbage til oliefelterne vi har tømt i de danske farvande. Kilde: Royalt halløj

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6: Tysklands største Hydrogen fabrik:

Germany's largest commercial renewable hydrogen factory is the 10 MW plant in Schwäbisch Gmünd, opened by Lhyfe in October 2025. The facility can produce up to 4 tons of renewable hydrogen per day and is Lhyfe's largest outside of France. While it's the largest operational commercial plant, there are larger-scale projects planned for the future in Germany, such as a 130 MW plant planned for Prenzlau by ENERTRAG. 

https://engineerine.com/largest-green-hydrogen-plant/

https://www.lhyfe.com/press/lhyfe-inaugurates-germanys-largest-commercial-renewable-hydrogen-production-site-in-baden-wurttemberg-to-distribute-rfnbo-certified-hydrogen-to-a-range-of-players/

A green hydrogen factory is good for the climate because it can be produced using renewable energy, with zero greenhouse gas emissions, and can replace fossil fuels in sectors that are hard to electrify, like heavy industry. When used in a fuel cell, hydrogen only releases water vapor and warm air, making it a clean energy carrier that can also store and deliver renewable energy. 

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Hydrogen Fuel Cell makes electricity directly. They also produce water vapor, heat and, depending on the fuel source, very small amounts of nitrogen dioxide and other emissions.

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7: Kelp farming in Norway

https://www.dnv.com/news/2024/new-seaweed-farm-off-the-norwegian-coast-seeks-to-remove-co2-from-the-atmosphere-252006/

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8: State of Climate Action 2025:

https://www.wri.org/research/state-climate-action-2025

" It finds that recent progress toward 1.5°C-aligned targets has largely failed to materialize at the required pace and scale and highlights where action must accelerate this decade to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, scale up carbon removal and increase climate finance."

Although more than three-quarters of indicators are heading in the right direction, progress is alarmingly inadequate, exposing communities, economies and ecosystems to unacceptable risks. Global efforts across 29 indicators are “well off track,” such that at least a twofold—and for most, more than a fourfold—acceleration will be required this decade to keep the 1.5°C limit within reach. "

Getting on track for 2030 and staying on track for 2035 demands an enormous acceleration of efforts across every sector. The world must, for example:

  • Phase out coal more than ten times faster — equivalent to retiring nearly 360 average-sized coal-fired power plants each year and halting all projects in the pipeline.

  • Reduce deforestation nine times faster. Current levels are far too high — roughly equivalent to permanently losing nearly 22 football (soccer) fields of forest every minute in 2024.

  • Expand rapid transit networks five times faster — equivalent to building at least 1,400 km (870 miles) of light rail, metro and bus lanes annually.

  • Lower consumption of beef, lamb and goat meat in high-consuming regions five times faster — equivalent to reducing consumption by 2 or fewer servings per week in North and South America, Australia and New Zealand.

  • Scale technological carbon dioxide removal more than ten times faster — equivalent to building nine of the largest direct air capture facilities currently under construction each month.

  • Increase climate finance by nearly $1 trillion annually — equivalent to roughly two-thirds of public fossil fuel finance in 2023. 

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Meta & Fysikken: Afsnit 11: Opfølgning på sæson 1

I dette sidste afsnit inden sommerferien samler vi lidt op på alt det, som vi har været igennem siden starten i Januar. Og vi kommer vidt omkring, filosoferer og bliver også lidt politiske. Særligt når det kommer til klima og miljø får den lige en bredside. Men dagsordenen er jo også ved at være alvorlig!

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Meta & Fysikken: Afsnit 10: Under overfladen

Dagens afsnit handler om alt det, der befinder sig under overfladen på verdenshavene. Nede i dybet findes klodens mest mangfoldige biodiversitet. Langt mere end på landjorden!

Men der ligger også en hel del grusomheder gemt, og vi har god grund til at være en smule påpasselige når vi går på opdagelse. Og de smeltende iskapper på polerne giver heller ikke bare problemer med stigende vandstand. Isen indeholder nemlig også ting der helst ikke bør tøes op!

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